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''With people-related knowledge resources
becoming a key competitive advantage in today's world,
the Tata Group has felt the need to refocus its attention
on leadership development,'' says R. Gopalakrishnan,
executive director of Tata Sons, and member
of the Group Executive Office, detailing the group's
new initiatives in developing human resources
With rapid technological change as well as global consolidation
in industries from banking to telecommunications, companies
need Chief Executives and managers skilled in running
complex enterprises. Companies need to cast their net
wider for managerial talent and have meaningful processes
for grooming potential Chief Executives. They also need
to do a better job of drilling down into the organisation
to spot and nurture future leaders early in their careers
and develop a system of succession planning on a continuing
basis.
In order to meet these challenges, the
Tata Group is taking some major initiatives in key areas.
The group is focusing on human resources, as potentially
the most important aspect of the group's change agenda.
R. Gopalakrishnan, executive director of Tata Sons, and
member of the Group Executive Office, who, is also responsible
for the HR function, spoke to Christabelle Noronha
about the groups new HR initiatives.
tata.com: In his New
Year message, the Chairman had said, and I quote:
''It has also been possible to finalize broad human
resource development templates for the Group that will
vitalize career growth through reward systems and job
mobility." What steps are being taken in this direction?
R. Gopalakrishnan: The Tatas have had a long
tradition of managing human resources. The enlightened
view they took with regard to labour in Jamshedpur as
well as the early initiative they took in setting up
the Tata
Administrative Services, or TAS, have both
been well documented. But times have changed significantly
and with people-related knowledge resources becoming
a key competitive advantage in todays world, the
Tata Group has felt the need to refocus its attention
on leadership development.
Historically, leaders were developed in
individual companies, and the group played only a small
role. Only two activities were managed as a group
the Tata Management Training Centre, or TMTC, and TAS.
With the formation of the GEO, the signing of the Brand
Equity Business Promotion, or BEBP, agreement by group
companies, HR has become a very important part of the
change agenda in the group.
A survey was done to assess the needs
of companies and managers in the group. The findings
that emerged were:
- mobility for growth
- competitive remuneration;
- performance measurement system;
- potential assessment system;
- group training inputs
- group resourcing
While several Tata companies may have
their own performance measurement systems their systems
must be able to speak to each other, and,
likewise with potential assessment. Like computers speak
to each other through an XML standard, we need a group
approach to performance management.
tata.com: What is the Group HR
mandate?
RG: To attract good people, retain the better
people and advance the best people. We are seeking to
construct an integrated HR system, in which the central
backbone will be the Tata Work Level. Around this concept
we will have a performance measurement system,(PMS)
potential assessment system (PAS), career development
system (CDS) and a remuneration policy (RP), all held
together by an organised methodology to enable the system
to operate in harmony.
We are now at the work-in-progress stage,
and are piloting work levels in a few select companies.

A company manages its business through
two kinds of work managerial work, done by people
with clear authority and accountability, and with influence
over resource allocation; the second is supervisory
work, done by skilled people who implement assigned
tasks and report to managers.
To fit the proposed Tata framework, the
whole groups management jobs will be studied.
There can be a maximum of six Tata Work Levels (TWL),
though not every company will have all six levels. TWLs
will be determined by the level of challenge in the
job, so it is the backbone of the HR framework which
will be implemented.
tata.com: So, what are these work levels, how
will they impact companies and affect their current
structures?
RG: Work levels are determined by two factors;
the Company Scope (CS) and the Management Scope (MS).The
intersection of these two is the Tata Work Level.
A is the highest and F the lowest.
We have classified our companies into
three scopes - we call them Scope 1 Company, Scope 2
Company and Scope 3 Company, naturally, all companies
dont have the same scope. Scope 1 companies are
complex and/or large as measured by parameters such
as turnover, profits, manpower, nature of competition,
extent of co-ordination and control required. Scope
2 companies are large companies but less complex, whereas
Scope 3 companies are medium sized.
Management scope is de-linked from Company
Scope. It tells you at what level of managerial work
you are within the company irrespective of the size
or the complexity of the company. Management scope 6
is typically the lowest level of management, with some
functional responsibility in a line or staff function
to deliver results in a fairly defined structure of
customers, technology, geography and time frame.
As we progress along the ladder the management
scope increases to encompass leadership, performance
and accountability. At the highest level, scope1, the
individual concerned, usually the chief executive, will
be responsible for running the enterprise, delivering
results and ensuring shareholder returns.

Traditionally, we look at the organisation
as a pyramid with the Chief Executive and senior management
at the top and others at different levels of the pyramid.
If you use a windscreen wiper model and plot the management
scope on the y-axis and company scope on the x-axis,
then, the work and scope of the manager is very wide
in a large and complex company and the wind screen wiper
is at A, the highest level. The highest quality of work
gets done here. This area has the smallest number of
jobs but is largest in leadership demand.
Obviously, between companies the quality
of work will differ for the same management scope. Under
the new framework, managers can aspire over a period
of time in their career to move upwards from work level
F to work level A. Today we have a situation in the
group where people just change designations. The new
initiatives have nothing to do with designations. It
is to give insight to the CEO and top management of
companies into how to get a flatter hierarchy and give
their managers better quality jobs. We would like to
have managers who are motivated to produce the highest
quality of work.
tata.com: How will all this benefit
employees and help in career progression?
RG: Career development is largely about spotting
good people, giving them job mobility, rotation and
progression up the organisation structure. We have developed
a model wherein an individuals capacity to progress
up the organisation can be tracked based on the work
levels we have defined and the experience and exposure
of the individual concerned. We will gradually implement
a structured methodology to manage our human resources
and managers expectations from the group.
There are some functions like HR and finance,
which do not have a sector bias and, thus, can be freely
rotated across companies operating in different business
sectors. Others like technology, research and manufacturing
are sector-specific functions, which, while have limited
scope for rotation across companies, can nevertheless
be used in different functions to develop their general
management. Both functions have potential to rise to
general management or to be functional specialists.
A Tata leader is required to develop six
characteristics through his career. The more senior
the leader, the more of these qualities they are required
to exemplify. The characteristics are:

These new initiatives, together with the
group focus on career planning and development will
have its impact on individual employees of the group.
tata.com: How do you identify potential leaders
in such a large group with over 10,000 managers?
RG: By bringing increasing levels of objectivity
and order into the entire exercise, all managers in
the group will be continuously evaluated on the basis
of a matrix that maps their "Energy"(emotional
intelligence) with their "Experience" (intuition)
gained over the years. Typical leaders are those with
multi-functional and multi-location experience and have
very high levels of energy both physical, emotional
and intellectual. They look and conduct themselves as
highly energetic people.
The analysis provided by such a matrix
allows the group to keep track of the potential leaders
in the group and harness their abilities for the groups
progress. The matrix is fairly self-explanatory and
provides a rational basis for tracking key managers.
The exercise will also help in identifying high performers
or proven leaders.

The company is the unit where potential
and performance of the manager is assessed and this
is the foundation of the system. Those meeting certain
criteria will come into the groups radar screen,
but the position is not assured for all times.
tata.com: Of the good performers
how do you identify the outstanding leaders?
RG: A very significant departure from the past
is the process of managing career development of employees
group-wide, instead of looking at specific companies
only. A key to this is the consultative process between
the companies and the GEO. For instance if a company
needs to recruit a resource of a certain level of seniority,
they will need to do so in consultation with the GEO
as there could be a good resource within the group.
What we are saying here is that as the work levels rise
in a company, the degree of consultation with the Group
Executive Office also increases. In order to make this
happen, systems will be devised. It is a major departure
and a very positive one for the group. It will be implemented
progressively and will be effective over the next 18
months. In the mean time companies will continue to
recruit senior people till the systems are all in place.
For the first time the group will have a system for
mobility, not a perfect one I should add, but vastly
better than the one we presently have.
tata.com: Over what period of time
will this system be in place across all companies?
RG: The Tata Group is very large, and it will
be foolish for it to try to bring all its managers within
the new scope and have all the systems working from
day 1. It will be done in a phased manner.
I would hope that our top companies, which
cover 75 per cent of our management, would come into
the loop within 18 months. By the end of 2002 we should
at least have a radar screen that catches all our managers.
But I want to emphasise that systems are easy to devise
in the head office, it is the implementation on the
ground that matters, and therefore a great deal of work
remains to be done before the system can deliver its
intended benefits. All that we have now is a great idea,
and a pilot project going on.
tata.com: The Tata Group is perceived
very poorly on compensation and hence unable to attract
talent. Would you like to tell us about the groups
remuneration policy?
RG: We have done a survey on remuneration, and
have articulated a philosophy of remuneration. It is
driven partly by market trends and partly by the group's
needs. As a result of this, the Group has already developed
a remuneration architecture. It can be implemented by
companies only progressively, as the groundwork on work
levels, has to be first completed.
tata.com: The Tata Group was the
first Indian group to set up a central managerial pool
through TAS, but it seems to have lost its sheen. How
do you plan to regain TASs lost glory?
RG: As part of the group HR initiatives we are
in the process of re-orienting TAS with the purpose
of developing a powerful stream of high quality managers
to lead Tata group companies in the years ahead. But
TAS is not the only source. There are three sources
of high quality managers companies' internal
promotees, companies' direct recruits, and the groups
TAS recruits. A lot of work is currently being done
in this area by our companies and at the group level.
tata.com: How do you plan to leverage
TMTC to build competence? How do we shift the emphasis
from training to learning?
RG: TMTC's mandate is to play a unique role in
delivering the Group HR mandate, which is to attract
good talent, retain the better talent and advance the
best. The uniqueness must be perceptible to the larger
companies that are well endowed with functional training
facilities as well as others that do not have in-house
training facilities of their own and hence depend on
outside training centres to meet their needs.
In order to move forward the first step
the TMTC took was to conduct a survey of twenty four
Tata companies to find out their training needs. The
survey findings threw up four overarching themes
Customer Connectivity (marketing), Corporate and Business
Strategy, Leadership Development and Governance for
effective growth. In order to meet companies' needs
TMTC is in the process of developing value-added programs
and is putting together a training calendar for the
year 2001-02.
The whole calendar will be re-oriented
to address the selected themes that are being conceptually
thought out for two kinds of "customers".
- Large companies which have their own training centres
and dont need the standard programs but have
the need to bring the group perspective to their managers
- Companies which do not have in house training facilities
and have to depend in any case on sending their managers
outside for training.
The programs have been structured into
three categories. Programmes that will cover generic
high quality programs, and discuss live Tata constituents.
Others that will be of international standard to develop
high quality people into top leadership; and very few
that will begin after 12-14 months -- for top quality
managers, in order to churn out the very best for the
groups most valuable A level jobs. These programs
will be conducted in collaboration with institutions
such as Ashridge, Harvard, and others. We are talking
to these institutes to run some very high quality programs
so that some of our good potential leaders can be put
through a very intensive program in the year 2001-2002.
tata.com: All this appears very
ambitious. How soon do you see it taking shape?
RG: Great companies have great systems, but they
are built up over long periods. The task of our generation
is to build systems that will last. We are on a journey
to build the proverbial cathedral, the walls will surely
be seen in the next 18 months.
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